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ZXClub.netRust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 10:40


Hello everyone,

Circumstances have changed for the better and I can move forward with my Z.

I had a look underneath the other day and nearly cried, years of manx sea air have not been kind. I planned on replace every suspension component with upgraded adjustable types anyway, so the wishbones and connecting rods ect don't concern me. What does concern me is the "chassis" they attach to.

The rusted hole in the floor pan extends into the chassis rail and the sub frames will need replacing. Buying and transporting a donor car will be difficult, giving that I live on a rock in the middle of the sea. So the first question is:

Is it worth repairing?!

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 12:28


Probably looks worse than it is to be fair. If most of it is surface rust, I.e. can't poke a screw driver through it, you can probably treat a lot of it without actually having to replace parts. That said, I'm looking on my phone in the sunlight, so I may not be seeing just how bad it is.

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 14:09


Neutrarust 661 on the surface rust asap. That'll stop it dead for now. It really is that good. We use it on the boats.
Weld in new patches for the thoroughly rusted parts. Then underseal.

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 20:49


Don't look roo bad, try poking a screwdriver about, if it's gone the screwdriver will go through it. Take the rear quarter panels off and have a look/feel down the bottom that's were the worse rust usually is

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 22:21


If you zoom in on the pic guys the top left of the floor is gone, And yes its repairable i have repaired worse and seen a lot worse before. POR cant remember the rest of the model no. Those suspension parts and such you could get away with a decent wire wheel and then metal primer either powder coat or paint after its done waxoil everywhere to protect it from this again.

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 1st, '13, 23:17


I don't even have any rust on my suspension arms or subframe. I think of myself as being very fortunate....just a bit of dust!

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 08:49


Thanks for your help guys, that was exactly the sort of advice i was looking for:

I will purchase some Neutrarust 661 and waxoil. I fancy having a go at powder coating, so I will probably purchase a kit.

Regarding the degree of rust, the metal is certainly thin in some areas, such as the front lower cross member. When I jacked the car up, big flakes of metal were falling of, so I think it may be an idea to buy a replacement.

The jacking points on the chassis rails have been bent and have rusted through. The rust would need to be cut off, with new metal welded on.

A couple more questions:

1) Repairing the floor pan, what thickness sheet should I use?

2) When repairing the chassis rails, would it be viable to remove the external seam (I can't think how to describe it)? For example, classic mini bodies were welded from outside the car with an external join. Some people cut of these joins and welded the body from the inside, so the boday was nice and smooth.

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 09:12


funkysi wrote:
I don't even have any rust on my suspension arms or subframe. I think of myself as being very fortunate....just a bit of dust!

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Any excuse to get a pic of your car up :tt2:

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 09:17


funkysi just wanted to make me feel bad haha!


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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 09:19


Did you have a look in the quarter wells?

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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 09:52


My car is stored in a warehouse, so I can only really look at it on the weekend annoyingly.

However, from memory, the rear of the car is pretty solid. And I have stripped out all of the interior and the only rust was at the front.

The front has rusted because 1) there is more to rust and 2) it is more exposed. The chassis rails are rusted due to being damaged.


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ZXClub.net Re: Rust in Peace Post Posted: Aug 2nd, '13, 10:31


If you're buying neutrarust, you can get it from Butler Marine.
Nicola who runs it is one of my suppliers and should sort you out. iIRC it's about £20 for a litre.

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